Dr Joe Rosen, a respected American surgeon says that, within five years, he will be able to graft wings and tails on to human beings. The article can be read here.
It might be interesting to run a survey to see who among the furry fandom would actually be willing to get this kind of plastic surgery if it became available. Just a thought.
I can see myself eventually going to the doctor, and saying, "Yes, I'd like a tail, but no I don't want it right now. I'd like...mmm...a year to think it over, before I make such a bold decision."
Plus I'd want to wait until the technology was improved, so I could have something nice 'n' fluffy. I wouldn't want a bald tail.
And maybe I'd wait (once the tech is fully available) more than a year. This isn't the sort of thing I'd want to go out and do on a whim. In the article, it talks of people who get other kinds of body modification, and later regret it. Heck, even a tattoo could be a rash decision. (Not that I'd want one of those.) But for now, my prosthetics (belt-on tails) suffice. }=)
Not to mention the *money* I'd need to have. =^.^= Gotta graduate...and go to graduate school...by then hopefully the economy will have pulled out of the drain.
My answer is: Yes, Yes, No- but not _this_ way (cosmetic surgery
just wont cut it)!
1. It wouldnt be just one operation. Consider what is involved
with known modifications like lengthening a short person's legs
an inch or so. A major change, like growing a proper length
tail, would take many operations and years.
2. Tremendous expense. I wouldn't be surprised at a million
dollars- a sum somewhat beyond the usual pocket change range!
3. No promise that the new parts would `work'- just a hope the
brain will adapt, nerves will develop, and muscles will perform
properly.
4. Some consider it a necessary beginning, but in my opinion,
bits and pieces don't make a complete new creature. Cosmetic
surgery only produces a `jackalope'. (Again: Only my opinion.)
But keeping the dream alive is important, so that young furs
will grow up and develop genetic manipulation techniques to
enable one's body to rebuild _itself_ completely and properly
(probably for a lot less money and pain)!
I think you've got the most realistic view on this whole thing... it'd be definitely cool, but I think the thing that would stop most of us is the price tag... I'd be willing to be a test subject... if it wasn't so damnably expensive!
Interesting thing is most test subjects being subjected to something like that get the whole thing for free but problm with that is that means if it comes out bad tough luck hope you get into the next cycle so they can fix the mistake.
I agree, good sir. This surgery would be nice for us furries, but think of where the parts come from , everyone! Please! I'd rather remain human than kill a fox for a tail or ears.
Oh, and I DO care about these animals, more than I care about humans. Don't you DARE associate me with anyone who doesn't.
My interests lie in genetic recombination, anyways. Grafting doesn't insure a whole lot. I've been studying basic procedures for it, so I'm hoping to be able to advance on it.
Let me make it clearer for any furries who can't see through their fantasy fog.
The process described pertains to grafting tails. GRAFTING. Not growing.
So, you need to get a tail from somewhere. Very likely, recently-removed and on-ice.
Now, animals aren't exactly queuing up to donate their tails, like they generally aren't queuing up to 'donate' their fur. These fantasy tail-donors will spend their life in a cage barely large enough to stand up in, then one day they'll be anally electrocuted and -- enjoy! -- there's your tail on ice.
Think about it next time you cry 'oh yiffy squiffy I gonna git me ah TAIL!'.
Ok, the statement was made that we furs would willingly kill animals for our tails, and I mean ALL furs... that's simply not true. Me, personally, I'd be fine with synthetic fur to be implanted. And I know other furs that wouldn't mind synth fur either.
I abhor anyone that kills animals for fashion alone... Synthetic, fake fur all the way for me!
Once upon a time, L. Ron Hubbard wrote a huge collection called Mission: Earth. In the first of the series, he introduced a "Doctor Crobe" whose specialty was grafting animal parts onto human bodies. Hubbard thought at the time that this Dr. Crobe was a satirical look at the medical profession. Life imitates art once again?To be sure, Fur-dom is not unique in that some of its fans are just a bit nutz, but for the life of me, I can't figure out who's crazier here: those furs who would seriously consider such surgeries, or that "doctor" who's proposing performing them.It's bad enough to be farming animals just so some rich b**** can have a status symbol. Now it seems that we'll be farming animals just so some yutz can sport a real, live tail at a con? I'll stick with the temporary, fake-fur, strap-on kind, thank you so very much.
I can hardly believe the direction taken in the last few posted comments.
Please re-read the article and you will find that although the word "graft" is used by the writer, no such thing is implied by the procedures described.
... My my my such anger we must all calm down. Now my personal belief is that killing animals for fasion is wrong and that killing animals for food is ok in some cases (Only when nessasary humans are omnivores after all). I think that genetic recombination would be optimal and that synth fur would do for a furry tail (Provided that the body dose not reject it in which case I would have to say nuts to the whole procedure). Useing an actual tail from another animail would be abhorantly dangerous very few animals have a compatible body structure to have their body parts "graftable" most grafts would begin to reject within hours, plus that would fall under the using animals for fasion catagory.
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It might be interesting to run a survey to see who among the furry fandom would actually be willing to get this kind of plastic surgery if it became available. Just a thought.
Ears, a tail or wings anyone?
I can see myself eventually going to the doctor, and saying, "Yes, I'd like a tail, but no I don't want it right now. I'd like...mmm...a year to think it over, before I make such a bold decision."
Plus I'd want to wait until the technology was improved, so I could have something nice 'n' fluffy. I wouldn't want a bald tail.
And maybe I'd wait (once the tech is fully available) more than a year. This isn't the sort of thing I'd want to go out and do on a whim. In the article, it talks of people who get other kinds of body modification, and later regret it. Heck, even a tattoo could be a rash decision. (Not that I'd want one of those.) But for now, my prosthetics (belt-on tails) suffice. }=)
Not to mention the *money* I'd need to have. =^.^= Gotta graduate...and go to graduate school...by then hopefully the economy will have pulled out of the drain.
Smile! The world could use another happy person.
My answer is: Yes, Yes, No- but not _this_ way (cosmetic surgery
just wont cut it)!
1. It wouldnt be just one operation. Consider what is involved
with known modifications like lengthening a short person's legs
an inch or so. A major change, like growing a proper length
tail, would take many operations and years.
2. Tremendous expense. I wouldn't be surprised at a million
dollars- a sum somewhat beyond the usual pocket change range!
3. No promise that the new parts would `work'- just a hope the
brain will adapt, nerves will develop, and muscles will perform
properly.
4. Some consider it a necessary beginning, but in my opinion,
bits and pieces don't make a complete new creature. Cosmetic
surgery only produces a `jackalope'. (Again: Only my opinion.)
But keeping the dream alive is important, so that young furs
will grow up and develop genetic manipulation techniques to
enable one's body to rebuild _itself_ completely and properly
(probably for a lot less money and pain)!
I think you've got the most realistic view on this whole thing... it'd be definitely cool, but I think the thing that would stop most of us is the price tag... I'd be willing to be a test subject... if it wasn't so damnably expensive!
Oh well... give it a couple decades... I hope...
Tlaren }:=8}
Interesting thing is most test subjects being subjected to something like that get the whole thing for free but problm with that is that means if it comes out bad tough luck hope you get into the next cycle so they can fix the mistake.
People, what's gotten into you? Where do you think these tails would come from? They're not grown out of plastic.
Do you want to kill, say, a fox so that you can have your 'own' fox tail?
Well hell, knowing many furries no-one gives a crap anyway.
smells like bullshit... where's my napalm, I'm going troll bombing... *roots around in his stash*
Tlaren }:=8}
I agree, good sir. This surgery would be nice for us furries, but think of where the parts come from , everyone! Please! I'd rather remain human than kill a fox for a tail or ears.
Oh, and I DO care about these animals, more than I care about humans. Don't you DARE associate me with anyone who doesn't.
My interests lie in genetic recombination, anyways. Grafting doesn't insure a whole lot. I've been studying basic procedures for it, so I'm hoping to be able to advance on it.
~Buster
Care to elucidate, Mr/Mrs Tlaren?
Let me make it clearer for any furries who can't see through their fantasy fog.
The process described pertains to grafting tails. GRAFTING. Not growing.
So, you need to get a tail from somewhere. Very likely, recently-removed and on-ice.
Now, animals aren't exactly queuing up to donate their tails, like they generally aren't queuing up to 'donate' their fur. These fantasy tail-donors will spend their life in a cage barely large enough to stand up in, then one day they'll be anally electrocuted and -- enjoy! -- there's your tail on ice.
Think about it next time you cry 'oh yiffy squiffy I gonna git me ah TAIL!'.
Ok, the statement was made that we furs would willingly kill animals for our tails, and I mean ALL furs... that's simply not true. Me, personally, I'd be fine with synthetic fur to be implanted. And I know other furs that wouldn't mind synth fur either.
I abhor anyone that kills animals for fashion alone... Synthetic, fake fur all the way for me!
There, I've elucidated...
And as a matter of fact, I'm male.
Tlaren }:=8}
Once upon a time, L. Ron Hubbard wrote a huge collection called Mission: Earth. In the first of the series, he introduced a "Doctor Crobe" whose specialty was grafting animal parts onto human bodies. Hubbard thought at the time that this Dr. Crobe was a satirical look at the medical profession. Life imitates art once again?To be sure, Fur-dom is not unique in that some of its fans are just a bit nutz, but for the life of me, I can't figure out who's crazier here: those furs who would seriously consider such surgeries, or that "doctor" who's proposing performing them.It's bad enough to be farming animals just so some rich b**** can have a status symbol. Now it seems that we'll be farming animals just so some yutz can sport a real, live tail at a con? I'll stick with the temporary, fake-fur, strap-on kind, thank you so very much.
I can hardly believe the direction taken in the last few posted comments.
Please re-read the article and you will find that although the word "graft" is used by the writer, no such thing is implied by the procedures described.
Animal parts are _not_ involved.
... My my my such anger we must all calm down. Now my personal belief is that killing animals for fasion is wrong and that killing animals for food is ok in some cases (Only when nessasary humans are omnivores after all). I think that genetic recombination would be optimal and that synth fur would do for a furry tail (Provided that the body dose not reject it in which case I would have to say nuts to the whole procedure). Useing an actual tail from another animail would be abhorantly dangerous very few animals have a compatible body structure to have their body parts "graftable" most grafts would begin to reject within hours, plus that would fall under the using animals for fasion catagory.
Thats my rant for the day.
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